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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22517</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Amber, what is "absolutely horrible" about abortion?&lt;/i&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;Sigh... so, what kind of answer do you expect to that question? Whatever it is, it'll just be one more thing that you dissect and deconstruct. Frankly I'm getting tired of all this back-and-forth... nobody here is going to change their well-established views. As to your question, the short answer is, abortion is a traumatic thing to go through, physically and emotionally, and I hope that I will never experience it. I don't feel that I can say much more than that since I've never had an abortion, so I'm not going to pontificate on the various mental and emotional effects. All I can do is reflect that, knowing myself, if it happened to me I would basically be on an emotional rollercoaster and it would take &lt;b&gt;a lot&lt;/b&gt; of time to get over. On the one hand I don't know if I could ever go through with having an abortion... but on the other hand, if I were raped (which again, hopefully will never happen) and became pregnant from it, I really don't know if I could carry that child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Amber, what is &#8220;absolutely horrible&#8221; about abortion?</i></p>
<p>Sigh&#8230; so, what kind of answer do you expect to that question? Whatever it is, it&#8217;ll just be one more thing that you dissect and deconstruct. Frankly I&#8217;m getting tired of all this back-and-forth&#8230; nobody here is going to change their well-established views. As to your question, the short answer is, abortion is a traumatic thing to go through, physically and emotionally, and I hope that I will never experience it. I don&#8217;t feel that I can say much more than that since I&#8217;ve never had an abortion, so I&#8217;m not going to pontificate on the various mental and emotional effects. All I can do is reflect that, knowing myself, if it happened to me I would basically be on an emotional rollercoaster and it would take <b>a lot</b> of time to get over. On the one hand I don&#8217;t know if I could ever go through with having an abortion&#8230; but on the other hand, if I were raped (which again, hopefully will never happen) and became pregnant from it, I really don&#8217;t know if I could carry that child.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22479</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2004 03:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber, what is "absolutely horrible" about abortion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber, what is &#8220;absolutely horrible&#8221; about abortion?</p>
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		<title>By: Jmac</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22516</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2004 20:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber I never said you didn't think it abortion was horrible. Though we disagree over the right to choose, I don't think you adore abortion or anything.
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&lt;br&gt;My comments were directed toward the T-shirt, which I find appalling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber I never said you didn&#8217;t think it abortion was horrible. Though we disagree over the right to choose, I don&#8217;t think you adore abortion or anything.</p>
<p>My comments were directed toward the T-shirt, which I find appalling.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22515</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, Johnathan, the point is that you would walk around with a shirt that says 'God saved me from the wreck of my life.'</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, Johnathan, the point is that you would walk around with a shirt that says &#8216;God saved me from the wreck of my life.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22514</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 03:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;mber, with all due respect, doesn't it seem like we're playing with semantics here? 'Some' vs. 'all' ... it seems like a circular argument. &lt;/i&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;And exactly how is that playing with semantics? &lt;b&gt;Some&lt;/b&gt; is very different from &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt;.
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;On a different note the T-shirt is horrific. Again, I don't care whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, you should still feel that abortion is a horrible experience to go through.&lt;/i&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;Come on, give me a break. Haven't you seen me say on a million occassions how absolutely horrible I think abortion is? How I can't imagine how awful I would feel if I ever had one? Does that make me any less passionate about the importance of a woman's right to choose? Not for a second. In fact, in a way it makes me more passionate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>mber, with all due respect, doesn&#8217;t it seem like we&#8217;re playing with semantics here? &#8216;Some&#8217; vs. &#8216;all&#8217; &#8230; it seems like a circular argument. </i></p>
<p>And exactly how is that playing with semantics? <b>Some</b> is very different from <b>all</b>.</p>
<p><i>On a different note the T-shirt is horrific. Again, I don&#8217;t care whether you&#8217;re pro-choice or pro-life, you should still feel that abortion is a horrible experience to go through.</i></p>
<p>Come on, give me a break. Haven&#8217;t you seen me say on a million occassions how absolutely horrible I think abortion is? How I can&#8217;t imagine how awful I would feel if I ever had one? Does that make me any less passionate about the importance of a woman&#8217;s right to choose? Not for a second. In fact, in a way it makes me more passionate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmac</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22513</link>
		<dc:creator>Jmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber, with all due respect, doesn't it seem like we're playing with semantics here? 'Some' vs. 'all' ... it seems like a circular argument.
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&lt;br&gt;All that said, I really don't think anyone here is arguing against sex education here. Perhaps some folks may disagree with the venue it should be taught in, but I think we should all be informed about these types of actions. So I think that addresses sarabeth's first concern with me.
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&lt;br&gt;On a different note the T-shirt is horrific. Again, I don't care whether you're pro-choice or pro-life, you should still feel that abortion is a horrible experience to go through. And to advertise that you had one is pathetic and degrading.
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&lt;br&gt;You want to champion women's rights? I'll stand right by you and fight all the way - equal pay in the workplace, breaking the glass ceiling in business, fighting discrimination, halting female circumsion in Africa, etc. and etc. But if you feel so insecure about your 'rights' that you have to wear a shirt proudly proclaiming you terminated a pregnancy, then I have little respect for what you want or feel you are entitled to.
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&lt;br&gt;I'm a Christian, but I would never walk around wearing a T-shirt saying 'You're all going to hell' because that would do little to advance my cause and would more than likely lead to angry confrontations. If I'm supposed to be a witness and converting people to my faith, then pissing 'em off ain't the most effective way to do it.
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&lt;br&gt;Bravery? Hardly.
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&lt;br&gt;Short-sighted belligerance? Perhaps.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber, with all due respect, doesn&#8217;t it seem like we&#8217;re playing with semantics here? &#8216;Some&#8217; vs. &#8216;all&#8217; &#8230; it seems like a circular argument.</p>
<p>All that said, I really don&#8217;t think anyone here is arguing against sex education here. Perhaps some folks may disagree with the venue it should be taught in, but I think we should all be informed about these types of actions. So I think that addresses sarabeth&#8217;s first concern with me.</p>
<p>On a different note the T-shirt is horrific. Again, I don&#8217;t care whether you&#8217;re pro-choice or pro-life, you should still feel that abortion is a horrible experience to go through. And to advertise that you had one is pathetic and degrading.</p>
<p>You want to champion women&#8217;s rights? I&#8217;ll stand right by you and fight all the way - equal pay in the workplace, breaking the glass ceiling in business, fighting discrimination, halting female circumsion in Africa, etc. and etc. But if you feel so insecure about your &#8216;rights&#8217; that you have to wear a shirt proudly proclaiming you terminated a pregnancy, then I have little respect for what you want or feel you are entitled to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Christian, but I would never walk around wearing a T-shirt saying &#8216;You&#8217;re all going to hell&#8217; because that would do little to advance my cause and would more than likely lead to angry confrontations. If I&#8217;m supposed to be a witness and converting people to my faith, then pissing &#8216;em off ain&#8217;t the most effective way to do it.</p>
<p>Bravery? Hardly.</p>
<p>Short-sighted belligerance? Perhaps.<br />
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		<title>By: Bly</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22512</link>
		<dc:creator>Bly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 19:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have statistics to see if the majority of women getting abortions are "kids"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have statistics to see if the majority of women getting abortions are &#8220;kids&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22511</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 17:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No no no... the point is that &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; kids are going to have sex anyway, no matter what you tell them. The point of educating about safe sex is to let them know that abstinence is the only 100% sure method to avoid pregnancy and STDs, but if you &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; choose to have sex, these are the options available to you in order to keep yourself (and your partner) safe and healthy. Such education should also emphasize that the decision of whether or not to have sex is a personal decision that shouldn't be influenced by what their peers/friends are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No no no&#8230; the point is that <i>some</i> kids are going to have sex anyway, no matter what you tell them. The point of educating about safe sex is to let them know that abstinence is the only 100% sure method to avoid pregnancy and STDs, but if you <i>do</i> choose to have sex, these are the options available to you in order to keep yourself (and your partner) safe and healthy. Such education should also emphasize that the decision of whether or not to have sex is a personal decision that shouldn&#8217;t be influenced by what their peers/friends are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bly</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2004/08/02/a-black-and-white-world-for-some/#comment-22510</link>
		<dc:creator>Bly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I hope you don't seriously think that this whole conversation was working on the presumption that "an educated decision about sex" referred only to using protection during sex."
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&lt;br&gt;Wasn't that the whole argument about educating them on sex? I mean, I am sure I can quote earlier posts saying that kids are going to have sex anyway, so they need to be educated about it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I hope you don&#8217;t seriously think that this whole conversation was working on the presumption that &#8220;an educated decision about sex&#8221; referred only to using protection during sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t that the whole argument about educating them on sex? I mean, I am sure I can quote earlier posts saying that kids are going to have sex anyway, so they need to be educated about it?</p>
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		<title>By: sarabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2004 13:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the argument against educating the youth about sex.  why is this such an awful thing?  i would love to know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the argument against educating the youth about sex.  why is this such an awful thing?  i would love to know!</p>
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