The Age-Old Debate

Jeff Moore has consolidated some of the articles out there comparing PHP and ASP. This debate is getting almost as heated as the perennial “Mac vs. PC” debate, or the even nerdier “vi vs. emacs” debate. I think you all know where I stand on this, so I won’t start pontificating.

22 Responses to "The Age-Old Debate"

  1. Paul says:

    Ha, I just did a rant on Tony’s site, so I’ll reproduce it here:

    “I bought my iBook in the summer of 2002 and it’s still cherry. Everyone else I know that bought their windows based laptops right before law school in fall 2003 and three of my four closest friends have had to replace their computers entirely. Macs are a better investment. Also Harper’s ran the statistice that the ratio of viruses targeting PCs to the ratio targeting Macs is 1000 to 1.”

    Furthermore, there is simply no comparison between the user friendliness of OSX. Most importantly, Macs look fucking sweet, it’s the internet geek’s equivalent of dating Penelope Cruz and driving a vintage Porsche.

  2. Michael says:

    When it comes to computer debates, I am Ralph Wiggum.

    Therefore, my opinion on the issue is this:

    “My cat’s breath smells like cat food.”

  3. Amber says:

    Nicely done, Paul! Not too long-winded, not too short.

    And you obviously know my feelings on the Mac vs. PC debate as well… I mean fuck, I’m cradling my iBook in my lap in the gratuitous “this is me” picture in the top left.

  4. Niki says:

    it’s the internet geek’s equivalent of dating Penelope Cruz and driving a vintage Porsche

    For those who find Penelope Cruz attractive… Does anyone else think she’s unattractive? I find it strange that I find most Hispanic/Latina actresses annoying.

  5. Amber says:

    I don’t even know who she is. (Or if I do, I don’t know I do.) I chose to ignore Paul’s reference to some random actress, and instead made an Orlando Bloom analogy for myself.

  6. Paul says:

    First of all, she is Iberian Spanish, not a friggin Mexican, but that’s not the point, because if that were I think I’d be a bigot. My attraction to her is based on her facial features and her not-the-typical hollywood-bimbo factor. Plus european spanish accents are hot.

  7. Amber says:

    Dude. Niki probably knows that. She’s half Puerto Rican herself so she’s no bigot when it comes to this kinda stuff.

    And I agree that European Spanish accents are hot.

  8. Jen says:

    I was once duped into a buying something from a mall kiosk because of a hot European Spanish accent. I was walking out of the mall thinking, what the fuck did I buy this for? And why did I give him my number?

    Obviously, someone did their market research on the accent.

  9. Rusty says:

    ASP was a nice switch from PERL back in the day. I like PHP a little better (not having to declare variables and free data objects from memory when you’re done with them is nice), but it wasn’t quite the jump from ASP that ASP was from PERL.

  10. Niki says:

    Um… well, M@ber already mentioned that I am Hispanic/Latina, but I feel I should also clarify that Hispanic/Latina does not mean “Mexican.” If I had meant Mexican, I would have said it.

    I know Penelope Cruz is from Spain. Hispanic, by definition, refers to people with origins in Spain (which Ms. Cruz obviously has). It’s more favored by those on the East Coast, while Latin is more favored by the wester United States, because of the variety of backgrounds Latinos have: Spain, indigenous groups, African slaves. So I choose to use both terms.

    And I don’t appreciate that “friggin Mexican” automatically be the go-to for bigotry in the realm of Hispanic/Latino. People apply prejudices to every single Hispanic/Latino subgroup, including those from Spain.

    I made the comment because the Hispanic/Latina actresses that I can think of off the top of my head annoy me, which is why I said “most.” If my personal realization about it offends you, then sorry.

    So what have we learned today, kids:

    * Hispanic/Latino encompasses more than just Mexican, but includes many people from Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Spain. So we should be a little more sensitive to those who fall under that rubric, as they do not appreciate being thought of as “friggin Mexicans.”

    Ugh, and it’s her facial features that I think make her unattractive.

  11. Amber says:

    Thank you for teaching us all a lesson, Niki. We have been enlightened today.

    I have to admit, though, that I thought the “friggin Mexican” comment was pretty funny. You should hear some of the comments Chris and I make offline. It’s funny because we know we’re not really racist. See how that works?

  12. Paul says:

    actually, originally i wrote the same thing, but called you a bigot at the end, and then just deleted that because I thought you wouldn’t realize I was kidding but neglected to change the thing before that, which ended up making ME look like the bigot. anyway, this is fun. we should do this more often!!!

    Also, thanks for the ethnicity lesson. they neglected to teach me that distinction during the time i lived in Oaxaca, Mexico.

    and thanks, Amber, for picking up the humor. Saying friggin “chicano” wouldn’t have amused even me, which is usually what I shoot for.

  13. Paul says:

    wasn’t this supposed to be about computers?

  14. Amber says:

    Oh, we get off-topic all the time here, Paul. And feel free to say what you want and be as sarcastic as you want. As a “newbie” to this blog, though, you may want to use the <sarcasm> tag the first few times though.

    (But don’t be steppin’ to Niki… she’s my girl! [but not in a lesbiany way])

  15. Jen says:

    You should hear some of the comments Chris and I make offline. It’s funny because we know we’re not really racist.

    I laughed for a whole minute after that, because it’s so true and ridiculous.

  16. Niki says:

    (But don’t be steppin’ to Niki… she’s my girl! [but not in a lesbiany way])

    I love you; I just don’t love you.

    No worries, Paul. I don’t mind being called names; I usually just don’t like strangers doing it. They have to actually know I’m a bitch before they can call me one.

    And I still think Penelope Cruz is unattractive.

  17. Ken says:

    How in the hell can you compare this to the HIGHLANDER argument of Emacs v. Vi.

    Hi. I use Vi. I have 13 fingers.

    There can be only one.

  18. Niki says:

    [Sigh] I always appreciate a good Highlander reference. Hat’s off, Ken.

  19. Ken says:

    Comment edit function! Comment edit function! Certainly all the yes-monkeys here would love it. You could even throw in a date-stamp to notify us that the position-weasels changed their posts.

    I would find all the fritting and finangling quite a turn on. Only if they weren’t such lousy dicks. Hey, chickenshits, I’m at http://quantifier.org/faq.html

  20. Amber says:

    Comment edit function? That would require me to go far beyond the idea of “simple.” And basically, I’m lazy.

    I do hope that my blog can turn you on, in some way, shape, or form. Who am I to judge?

  21. Paul says:

    Mac update. My mom’s one year old PC froze twice(!) during my exam yesterday, causing me to lose valuable information in a time sensitive setting. The testing software doesn’t run on macs. My mac has never “frozen up” and needed to be rebooted simply because the computer decided to freak out and then take a break.

  22. Amber says:

    Ain’t superiority great?

    Sorry that happened during your exam, though… that really sucks. :o