Comments on: Save your judgement for another day http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2006/05/19/save-your-judgement-for-another-day/ Making the baby Jesus cry since 2002. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:17:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Amber http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2006/05/19/save-your-judgement-for-another-day/#comment-29068 Amber Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:24:34 +0000 http://amber.tangerinecs.com/?p=1561#comment-29068 Interesting points. I'm curious, where did you get these definitions from? Are they your own defintiions or do they come from standard accepted medical usage? <br /> <br />One place I would disagree is on the symptomatic issue, esp. wrt to HPV. That is, I don't think of genital warts as a "disease" - genital warts are a <em>symptom</em> of HPV, not a disease unto itself. At least, that's how I view it. To give another example, a 100-degree fever isn't a disease, but a symptom. Interesting points. I’m curious, where did you get these definitions from? Are they your own defintiions or do they come from standard accepted medical usage?

One place I would disagree is on the symptomatic issue, esp. wrt to HPV. That is, I don’t think of genital warts as a “disease” - genital warts are a symptom of HPV, not a disease unto itself. At least, that’s how I view it. To give another example, a 100-degree fever isn’t a disease, but a symptom.

]]> By: Matt http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2006/05/19/save-your-judgement-for-another-day/#comment-29067 Matt Fri, 09 Jun 2006 15:00:32 +0000 http://amber.tangerinecs.com/?p=1561#comment-29067 A disease is a set of negative health affects, symptoms, and clinical signs. An infection reffers to the situation in which viruses, bacteria, and other organisms live within the tissues of another organism. AIDS is a disease and HIV is an infection. Asymptomatic HPV is an infection while genital warts is a disease. Infections can cause disease, but not always. Diseases can be caused by infections but not always. I assume that the term STI is preffered because it includes non-symptomatic infections while "STD" does not. For once the popular press has been foiled in their tendency alter language, misinform, and ruin usefull terminology by the propogation of misunderstanding and excessive simplification. A disease is a set of negative health affects, symptoms, and clinical signs. An infection reffers to the situation in which viruses, bacteria, and other organisms live within the tissues of another organism. AIDS is a disease and HIV is an infection. Asymptomatic HPV is an infection while genital warts is a disease. Infections can cause disease, but not always. Diseases can be caused by infections but not always. I assume that the term STI is preffered because it includes non-symptomatic infections while “STD” does not. For once the popular press has been foiled in their tendency alter language, misinform, and ruin usefull terminology by the propogation of misunderstanding and excessive simplification.

]]> By: figleaf http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2006/05/19/save-your-judgement-for-another-day/#comment-29066 figleaf Sun, 21 May 2006 21:39:48 +0000 http://amber.tangerinecs.com/?p=1561#comment-29066 Hmm. Maybe it's just a matter of semantics, but I think if I have a hangnail that gets infected the doctor doesn't say I have, er, "cuticle cellulitis disease," he just says I have an infection. <br /> <br />And it's known, for instance, that men can have cryptic yeast infections and that they can spread it to their partners via intercourse or cunnilingus. Does that make yeast a sexually transmitted disease or a sexually transmitted infection? <br /> <br />Note that it *could* be that healthcare providers are just being PC (they *did* stop calling them "venerial diseases" after all.) But it's possible that in medical parlance they're just being more inclusive. <br /> <br />--- <br /> <br />Thanks for tackling this, Amber. I think it's really important. It's also important that it's not the particular illness per se that I'm worried about, it's the issue (and follow-on consequences) of sexualizing them that concerns me. <br /> <br />figleaf Hmm. Maybe it’s just a matter of semantics, but I think if I have a hangnail that gets infected the doctor doesn’t say I have, er, “cuticle cellulitis disease,” he just says I have an infection.

And it’s known, for instance, that men can have cryptic yeast infections and that they can spread it to their partners via intercourse or cunnilingus. Does that make yeast a sexually transmitted disease or a sexually transmitted infection?

Note that it *could* be that healthcare providers are just being PC (they *did* stop calling them “venerial diseases” after all.) But it’s possible that in medical parlance they’re just being more inclusive.

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Thanks for tackling this, Amber. I think it’s really important. It’s also important that it’s not the particular illness per se that I’m worried about, it’s the issue (and follow-on consequences) of sexualizing them that concerns me.

figleaf

]]> By: Amber http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2006/05/19/save-your-judgement-for-another-day/#comment-29065 Amber Sun, 21 May 2006 00:14:59 +0000 http://amber.tangerinecs.com/?p=1561#comment-29065 Jenny, <br /> <br />I'm suddenly reminded of when you and I got Saturday school for passing a note in Lumpy's class that said, "Republicans suck." I wonder what would've happened if we'd written "Democrats suck"... hmm, I bet we would've gotten extra credit. <br /> <br />And with that memory of <em>10 years ago</em> I say... Happy early birthday. :) Jenny,

I’m suddenly reminded of when you and I got Saturday school for passing a note in Lumpy’s class that said, “Republicans suck.” I wonder what would’ve happened if we’d written “Democrats suck”… hmm, I bet we would’ve gotten extra credit.

And with that memory of 10 years ago I say… Happy early birthday. :)

]]> By: jt http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2006/05/19/save-your-judgement-for-another-day/#comment-29064 jt Sat, 20 May 2006 23:34:09 +0000 http://amber.tangerinecs.com/?p=1561#comment-29064 Yep. In PC circles, "disease" is now "infection" due to the stigma attached to the word "disease." <br /> <br />[sigh] <br /> <br />Don't get me wrong, I'm ridiculously PC. <br /> <br />It's just a damn shame that a disease can't be a disease. [sigh] Social <del>conservatives</del> oppressors suck. (How's <b>that</b> for PC...) Yep. In PC circles, “disease” is now “infection” due to the stigma attached to the word “disease.”

[sigh]

Don’t get me wrong, I’m ridiculously PC.

It’s just a damn shame that a disease can’t be a disease. [sigh] Social conservatives oppressors suck. (How’s that for PC…)

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