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		<title>By: trinityva</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-33038</link>
		<dc:creator>trinityva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, my beef with all this is pretty much what I say over here:

http://trinityva.livejournal.com/913526.html

Which is: These people constantly behave sleazily in the interest of their cause. Whether that&#039;s lying, badgering, asking leading questions, or ad hominem attacks. If we did anything half that sleazy it would be proof that you can&#039;t trust the immoral sluts, but because this stuff is for &quot;women&#039;s liberation&quot; (a phrase I increasingly suspect actually means nothing), such tactics are seen as perfectly acceptable. Or at least as excusable. Very few people on the other side condemn them., and even when they do, they tend to think their videos, articles, and projects are &quot;important&quot; enough that it really doesn&#039;t matter if they break rules of basic decency to produce it.

I&#039;m tired of that. I know and read a very small handful of anti-porn feminists that wouldn&#039;t pull that sort of thing. But I keep wondering: Where does it keep coming from? Why is basic decency so difficult for Dr. Sun and so many others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, my beef with all this is pretty much what I say over here:</p>
<p><a href="http://trinityva.livejournal.com/913526.html" rel="nofollow">http://trinityva.livejournal.com/913526.html</a></p>
<p>Which is: These people constantly behave sleazily in the interest of their cause. Whether that&#8217;s lying, badgering, asking leading questions, or ad hominem attacks. If we did anything half that sleazy it would be proof that you can&#8217;t trust the immoral sluts, but because this stuff is for &#8220;women&#8217;s liberation&#8221; (a phrase I increasingly suspect actually means nothing), such tactics are seen as perfectly acceptable. Or at least as excusable. Very few people on the other side condemn them., and even when they do, they tend to think their videos, articles, and projects are &#8220;important&#8221; enough that it really doesn&#8217;t matter if they break rules of basic decency to produce it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of that. I know and read a very small handful of anti-porn feminists that wouldn&#8217;t pull that sort of thing. But I keep wondering: Where does it keep coming from? Why is basic decency so difficult for Dr. Sun and so many others?</p>
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		<title>By: Aspasia</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-33006</link>
		<dc:creator>Aspasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matey: &quot;I would see you as a traitor not only to womanhood, but also to humanity.&quot;

*blinks*

Wow. That was klassy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matey: &#8220;I would see you as a traitor not only to womanhood, but also to humanity.&#8221;</p>
<p>*blinks*</p>
<p>Wow. That was klassy.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32997</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s even worse if you&#039;re a teenage girl. Having any kind of sex at all automatically means you&#039;re self-destructive and have low self-esteem, apparently.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yep. Been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s even worse if you&#8217;re a teenage girl. Having any kind of sex at all automatically means you&#8217;re self-destructive and have low self-esteem, apparently.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep. Been there.</p>
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		<title>By: Guess who&#8217;s back, back again&#8230; &#171; Miss Nomered</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32996</link>
		<dc:creator>Guess who&#8217;s back, back again&#8230; &#171; Miss Nomered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this thread over at Amber&#8217;s got me thinking. Well, in a tangential way, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this thread over at Amber&#8217;s got me thinking. Well, in a tangential way, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Gut Cup &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some people simply aren&#8217;t wired to interact with others</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32995</link>
		<dc:creator>The Gut Cup &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some people simply aren&#8217;t wired to interact with others</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] enjoy reading Being Amber Rhea. Its an interesting blog - waaaaaaaayyyyyy the hell out in left field, but interesting none the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] enjoy reading Being Amber Rhea. Its an interesting blog &#8211; waaaaaaaayyyyyy the hell out in left field, but interesting none the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Nomered</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32994</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Nomered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s even worse if you&#039;re a teenage girl. Having any kind of sex at all automatically means you&#039;re self-destructive and have low self-esteem, apparently. Dr. Phil told me so.

There is a reason I don&#039;t tell therapists about my sex life. (As in, having sex is not a symptom of why I need therapy, dipshits.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s even worse if you&#8217;re a teenage girl. Having any kind of sex at all automatically means you&#8217;re self-destructive and have low self-esteem, apparently. Dr. Phil told me so.</p>
<p>There is a reason I don&#8217;t tell therapists about my sex life. (As in, having sex is not a symptom of why I need therapy, dipshits.)</p>
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		<title>By: RenegadeEvolution</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32993</link>
		<dc:creator>RenegadeEvolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 19:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber-  But you forget, I get degraded for a living, by Professionals!  Surely anything that the web feminists throw at me pales in comparision, Right?

Right?

Only not so much, really.  But some of what they say is true...I do have a vested interest in this, more than a lot of people...because it IS my job and my passion...and it&#039;s pretty apparent that no one else is gonna have a vested interest for me.

Besides, I might as well put those degrees to work somehow, since my job totally doesn&#039;t require brain power at all, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber-  But you forget, I get degraded for a living, by Professionals!  Surely anything that the web feminists throw at me pales in comparision, Right?</p>
<p>Right?</p>
<p>Only not so much, really.  But some of what they say is true&#8230;I do have a vested interest in this, more than a lot of people&#8230;because it IS my job and my passion&#8230;and it&#8217;s pretty apparent that no one else is gonna have a vested interest for me.</p>
<p>Besides, I might as well put those degrees to work somehow, since my job totally doesn&#8217;t require brain power at all, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Superlagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32992</link>
		<dc:creator>Superlagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish someone would come up with a list of feminist-approved sex acts.  I mean, cowgirl is okay, I would guess, but what about reverse cowgirl?  And what about doggy-style?  Hits the g-spot, but is it degrading?  69?  Seems egalitarian, but there is that whole penis-in-the-mouth thing that might be against the rules.  Also, I nursed for three years of my life, so my nipples don&#039;t have quite the sensation they used to.  Is it okay in this case if my partner pinches or bites them, or is that still too violent?

As a rule-abiding feminist, I just want to make sure I&#039;m in compliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish someone would come up with a list of feminist-approved sex acts.  I mean, cowgirl is okay, I would guess, but what about reverse cowgirl?  And what about doggy-style?  Hits the g-spot, but is it degrading?  69?  Seems egalitarian, but there is that whole penis-in-the-mouth thing that might be against the rules.  Also, I nursed for three years of my life, so my nipples don&#8217;t have quite the sensation they used to.  Is it okay in this case if my partner pinches or bites them, or is that still too violent?</p>
<p>As a rule-abiding feminist, I just want to make sure I&#8217;m in compliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had your stamina, Ren. It&#039;s like I was telling a friend the other day - I am unable to put up a &quot;wall&quot; with this stuff and let the personal attacks and dismissals and obvious disgust roll off of me and keep on discussing the issue on a rational level. I just can&#039;t. I wish I could. But it gets to me. It makes me feel like shit. I need to respect my limits and know when to walk away... even though that sucks, because yes, that means me and a lot of people like me end up not being heard. (Yes, we can write all day long on our own blogs; but all the people who read Hugo won&#039;t necessarily deign to come over here.)

I know this sounds like a &quot;poor me&quot; pity party and that&#039;s honestly not what I am going for, at all. Just trying to explain why I have to stop interacting w/ commenters like Faith at a certain point. I respect your ability to keep on with it, Ren. But I just don&#039;t have it in me.

And, re: porn sex... it really makes me roll my eyes... sometimes I think these people must imagine I watch a ton of porn! And in reality I watch very little porn... most of it I find more amusing or silly than arousing. And yeah, I was fantasizing about anal before I ever saw porn at all, so there goes that theory (which is one of the stupidest fucking theories I&#039;ve heard, btw).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had your stamina, Ren. It&#8217;s like I was telling a friend the other day &#8211; I am unable to put up a &#8220;wall&#8221; with this stuff and let the personal attacks and dismissals and obvious disgust roll off of me and keep on discussing the issue on a rational level. I just can&#8217;t. I wish I could. But it gets to me. It makes me feel like shit. I need to respect my limits and know when to walk away&#8230; even though that sucks, because yes, that means me and a lot of people like me end up not being heard. (Yes, we can write all day long on our own blogs; but all the people who read Hugo won&#8217;t necessarily deign to come over here.)</p>
<p>I know this sounds like a &#8220;poor me&#8221; pity party and that&#8217;s honestly not what I am going for, at all. Just trying to explain why I have to stop interacting w/ commenters like Faith at a certain point. I respect your ability to keep on with it, Ren. But I just don&#8217;t have it in me.</p>
<p>And, re: porn sex&#8230; it really makes me roll my eyes&#8230; sometimes I think these people must imagine I watch a ton of porn! And in reality I watch very little porn&#8230; most of it I find more amusing or silly than arousing. And yeah, I was fantasizing about anal before I ever saw porn at all, so there goes that theory (which is one of the stupidest fucking theories I&#8217;ve heard, btw).</p>
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		<title>By: RenegadeEvolution</title>
		<link>http://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/29/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-32989</link>
		<dc:creator>RenegadeEvolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and Amber, lay off the porn sex...you&#039;re hurting yourself and MEEEE!!!!  You icky person!

(ok tried, couldnt even type that with a straight face...I&#039;m gonna go watch &quot;anal destruction&quot; now)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and Amber, lay off the porn sex&#8230;you&#8217;re hurting yourself and MEEEE!!!!  You icky person!</p>
<p>(ok tried, couldnt even type that with a straight face&#8230;I&#8217;m gonna go watch &#8220;anal destruction&#8221; now)</p>
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