Exactly

I fully support Ren declaring herself the god-emperor of Rome for the day.

Common sense, people. Let me show you it.

I do not understand that while there is no question that sexism affects everyone, there is such a refusal to see that there is a great difference between “slut” and “stud”. Or that cat-calling, honking, or otherwise making loud overtures towards a woman will, often, annoy the shit out of that woman and it is, generally, not something men have to deal with as often, if at all. I give a thumbs up to the idea that attraction is natural, but a thumbs down to “society expects/forces this behavior on us, thus I must”…the God Emperor of Rome believes in free will. And that both men and women are capable of employing it and using it to not do what society tells them to do all the time.

And seriously, I do not understand why more men are not, apparently, offended at the idea that they’re basically mindless automatons doing whatever society or “biology” (to which they often nebulously appeal) tells them to do. ‘Cause I’d be pretty offended if people were suggesting I’m incapable of making my own decisions. Oh wait, people are suggesting that, and yeah, I’m offended!

Sometimes my mind just boggles at the, well, mind-boggling stupidity of it all.

Which reminds me of the title of a post I need to write: “I am not a patient person.”

Woman’s body == sex, and related notes

Interesting post up at Uncool. This idea of a woman’s body as a signifier for sex is something I first discussed back in college, in my awesome Biology and Politics of Women’s Reproduction class. The professor had asked us to bring in magazine clippings of ads that use sex to sell their product. A lot of people brought in ads featuring scantily clad women. As we went around and each showed the ads we’d brought, the professor called these out and asked, “Why does this signify sex? This is a picture of a woman. Why do we understand the picture to represent sex?”

It was a real “a-ha!” moment for me.

I don’t think this is something nearly enough people consider, or that it even ever enters their mind as something that needs to be considered. There’s nothing to think about there, right? Sex sells… and we understand that even an image of a woman’s face or lips [can't find the photo I was looking for] means “sex.”

But, why? Talk about your deeply embedded cultural assumptions. We’ve got some unpacking to do. Because until we do that, there are a lot of other problems that will remained only partially dealt with at best, instead of getting to the root of the problem.

For example, Caroline says:

Now, to me, it seems reasonable to make a connection with street harassment (I’ve got a post in the drafts, will do very soon). Because naked women = sex, so to do ‘revealing’ clothes. Take, for example, the lady pictured (right, taken from Tom Paine’s blog). Sexy? Certainly this image would equate with sex in this society because 1) the jeans show clearly her figure and 2) there’s a lot of skin on display. Therefore, some men believe that sex is being ‘offered’ to them and whistling, leery looks, comments etc ensues. So, if women say, “No, I’m wearing these jeans because I like the way I look in them and they make me feel more confident and therefore happier, and it is not about attracting the attention of all the men on the street,” many will laugh and dismiss that as utter nonsense.

Why? Because, like we said, naked women = sex, and that attitude permits, in part, that sort of behaviour (obviously it’s by no means solely responsible). Blokes don’t want to wear their shirts in the summer because they’re too hot, whatever. Women want to wear short shorts or, say, cropped tops because…. what? They’re sexy? They’re trying to be sexy? Cos they’re after attention? Please. Some do, some don’t. Depends on the lass just as it depends on the lad.

I think the other thing at work in this example is entitlement, which as we know, is a big part of male privilege. Obviously it must be about the men, what else could it possibly be about? Surely she couldn’t have her own reasons for dressing a certain way, that’s inconceivable!

It’s really, really stupid. I mean when I really think about it, the utter stupidity just knocks me on my ass.

Unfortunately I see similar arguments coming from some feminists, and the fact that I know they’re not stupid at all points to just how entrenched this idea is. For example, in Caroline’s post she points to another incarnation of the ever-present hand-wringing discussion over why some women post naked photos online. It simply must have something to do with wanting male approval, right?

My reaction, again, can be summed up with this emoticon: :|

I think there is a discussion to be had over the relative lack of male bodies portrayed on some self-identified sex-positive sites; but getting hung up on the “women only do it for male attention” / “those sites are replicating existing power structures” argument will simply lead to a stalemate, preventing discussion of whatever the real issues are.

ETA: Also be sure to see Laura’s original post which Caroline was referencing. Meant to link it when I first wrote this post, sorry!

Assumptions and other annoyances

I’ve had this pinned in Bloglines for a while now. I quoted from it on my Tumblr, too. I guess I kept thinking I’d come back and write more lengthy commentary, but I realize there isn’t much else I could say, other than just: I relate. So I submit now without comment, a rather lengthy excerpt from Miss Syl’s post Type cast.

One thing that’s interesting about this internet world–and the written word in general–is the perception aspect. That is, the perceptions one builds of the people one reads. Much like reading a book where you create a mental image of the character, people read a blogger’s words and filter them through their own imaginations and experience. And whether deliberately or no, a picture of what the person would be like to interact with in “real life” develops–you invent an imaginary voice for the person, an imaginary height, body type…you think you “get” how that person would move or respond or act in real life.

I suppose this response is only natural. But it’s good to remember that this imagined perception is all you, not them.

Assumption #3: Because I talk about sex it means I want to fuck you, or that I’m an emotion-free Fembot designed specifically for your pleasure.

This one I feel really deserves no explanation–it should be an obvious fact of life. But it is shocking to me how often men themselves are shocked by a woman who will talk about sex with frankness and openly say she enjoys it. And equally shocking to me are the assumptions some of them make based on that reality. I mean, come on fellas, is it really that rare these days? When a GUY talks to you about sex, do you assume he wants to fuck you, regardless of his orientation?

So for the record: just because I talk about sex with you doesn’t mean I want to have sex with you. It means simply that I like talking about sex as one of many topics I enjoy talking about. It doesn’t mean I am trying to turn you on, even if you do get turned on. Saying that I enjoy sex doesn’t mean I’m thinking of having it with you. Necessarily. Of course, any of those conditions may be true: in some cases I might want to fuck the guy I’m talking to, or tease him to arousal, or I might be thinking about having sex with him. But this is not the rule by a long shot.

End point: A blog gives you very little to go on. Even when people are totally genuine, we are all of us more than we appear in the little glimpses of ourselves we give you. I myself have been surprised multiple times when I’ve met online people in real life and something about them has completely clashed with my perception of them.

And, I will end by posing to my readers the same questions Miss Syl poses to hers (the “what do I look like” one is less relevant, since I post plenty of photos).

I’m curious: Just for fun, what image of me do/did you have in your head? What do I look like, sound like, act like, dress like? I promise to debunk all misconceptions offered with the real picture (unless you ask me not to).

And for those of you who already know me off blog a bit–or for anyone else–what misperceptions do you run into most between your writing and in-the-flesh selves?

Quote of the day

From Octogalore, in response to an idiotic “men’s rights” commenter (wait, that was redundant)…

[S]ubstituting a gender rights moniker for feminism would suggest that men’s rights are currently under attack in the same way. That’s why it’s ridiculous.

Racial, poverty, immigration movements all believe in “justice for all” but you don’t hear anyone advocating subbing something like “income rights” or “color rights” and for good fucking reason.

I’m sorry that men feel left out of the appellation (really, shedding tears as we speak) but it should be fairly obvious that focusing on the areas by far most vulnerable is the only way to get things done.

YES.

Spring cleaning Gmail

Detritus from my “Stuff to Post” label (with my notes to self, where included):

January 4, 2006

February 21, 2006

February 26, 2006

March 16, 2006

August 29, 2006

November 27, 2006

  • Interesting:

    Is it a white liberal American thing this fallacious idea that there are always two equal sides to an argument and that the answer or the truth must lie somewhere in between, thus everybody must have their say in every forum? It certainly seems to be a popular belief on those blogs that give a platform to anti-feminists to air their views.

    YES and I should probably write an essay about it. “Free speech” and “the right to hold an opinion” have been entirely misunderstood in this country, I think. And of course, there are never ONLY two sides, and the ‘truth’ is NOT necessarily in between.

    The right to free speech is NOT the right to speak everywhere, all the time, and the “right to an opinion” does not mean opinions cannot be debated or examined - or ignored.

    Some people seem to be really insecure about their opinions, and yet want them protected: as though they were like body parts they were dissatisfied with, but do not want to be teased about. Of course, one shouldn’t be mean to people about such things, or about experiences they’ve had … but that is a very far cry from deciding or not to engage someone’s opinion, or to disagree with it, or not to give it weight.

    People do NOT understand this, it seems, and I think it is some sort of ideological effect - and control mechanism - “free speech” gets twisted around to mean censorship of free thinking, if I am being clear.

    (Comment by profacero at http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2006/11/24/trolls-and-anti-feminists/)

    [Ed. note: From Heart's blog, aaahhhh!!!]

August 2, 2007

  • http://saraspeaking.wordpress.com/2007/07/07/what-kind-of-friend-are-you/

    Since the gist of the thread is about whether a statement has to intend to be sexist in order to actually be sexist, we have the following quote:

    Assuming that there were no hard feelings intended from the offender how do you make the offender aware of what he has just said? Who wins when it’s largely a difference of opinion?

    “who wins?” That’s your problem right there. This isn’t about winning or losing. This is about you having said something that offends/hurts someone else, and whether you’re going to continue offending/hurting them by arguing about the offense, or whether you’re going to apologise and attempt to make amends. In short, whether you’re going to be hostile or friendly.

    Frankly, I don’t think you’re a very good friend at all if you’re going to take the former route. Denise has a good analogy:

    Say you’re sitting at a table with several friends. You stretch, and unintentionally hit the person next to you in the face, hard. Is the correct response to berate the person who has been hurt for leaning forward, or is it to apologize and keep greater awareness of your surroundings? Nic’s response has been telling the person who has been hit to stop being so sensistive and continuing on in ignorance. Intent is a part of what matters. Your friend would likely find the anger at being struck easier to let go of once he or she knew it was an accident. BUT that the injury was unintended does not make the injury go away. A failure to apologize and an insisitence that you are in the right when you injure people because you’re not paying attention makes you look like a jackass.

    Exactly. Not meaning to do something doesn’t undo the fact that it has been done. I didn’t mean to overdraft my bank account, but that sure as hell doesn’t change the fact that I’m a couple hundred dollars in the hole. I didn’t mean to hurt my friend’s feelings, but that doesn’t change the fact that she is, in fact, hurt. And I can either argue — oh, oops, I mean “have a difference of opinion” with her as to the state of her feelings and the justification thereof. Or I can be a friend, apologise, and kiss and make up.

Some of these links might not work anymore. I haven’t checked. Now I can clear out that label, though!

What it’s like

Straight privilege… this is it.

Very moving post up at Shakesville, written by Portly Dyke:

I doubt that most straight, cisgendered people think about, or notice, how frequently they touch their partner in public in ways that are not necessarily “sexual” (in addition to kissing, cuddling, and the odd bum-squeeze) — ie. holding hands, walking with an arm around the waist, smoothing the other’s hair back out of their eyes — nor do I think that most straight, cisgendered people are probably aware of the fact that when I touch my partner in public, it’s nearly always a considered act.

I don’t obsess about this — as in — it doesn’t eat up my days and nights — and I’m probably about as “out” as a queer can be in this country — but every single time I take my partner’s hand on the street, or toss my arm over her shoulder or around her waist, hug her goodbye or hello, I do a little, tiny “security sweep”.

I notice who is around, and where I am, and what the energy feels like — before I touch her in public. It’s a tiny amount of attention, most often, but it’s there.

I just noticed recently that in an unknown situation that seems “sort of” safe, (like walking in a crowded mall) I’m more likely to curl her arm through mine than to hold her hand — which may seem counter-intuitive, since arm-in-arm actually affords much closer body contact — but after I thought about this, I realized that walking “arm-in-arm” is something that I see straight girl-friends do more often than holding hands (after they’re 12, anyway). In considering this choice, I also realized that in many situations, I’m happy to give any possible bigots in an uncertain setting the option of assuming that we’re just a couple of straight girls.

Which sorta sucks.

I recognize this as the internalized homophobia that it is, but I can’t deny that it’s present in me. The fact is, that I stop, look, and listen before I demonstrate physical affection toward my beloved in nearly every public setting that is not clearly “queer safe”.

A must-read.

(Yes, I’m aware I’m speaking in sentence fragments today.)

Blog post cribbed from an IM conversation

I’m not saying where this came from, but I hate headlines like this: “Quick Breakfasts That Kids and Dads Can Prepare.”

Kids, sure. But dads? Come on. Way to infantilize grown men.

It’s so simple! Even dad can do it! Because he’s not much smarter than a trained monkey!

(If I had a screenshot of the headline, it would get the FAIL stamp.)

I been sayin’

Figleaf has been sayin’, too.

Anyway, SnowdropExplodes makes an excellent (yet rather common sense) point, re: a discussion about what a “feminist relationship” looks like:

One thing that, as a guy who’s learnt enough skills to be able to contribute properly around the home (cooking/kitchen work especially, also laundry and ironing shirts - not so much tidying and hoovering, despite my best efforts to improve my skills there) - one of the big “red flag” things for me was when a woman observed me contributing in a place where I’m living (it was usually when I was living at my parents’ home) and says within my earshot to my mother (or some other female acquaintance of mine), “I see you’ve got him well house-trained”. Sometimes it’s even been said to my face. It’s a different effect when men say something similar, because they’re just likening me to a woman (since I believe women are equal to men, I don’t have a big issue with that to take personal affront - although I might very well speak up to say that everything I do is manly, because I am a man!) When a woman says it, it not only affirms the patriarchal gender roles, but is also a direct belittling of my choices, and says that I do not deserve respect because of it. Whether she identifies as feminist or not, that’s not going to fly with me as a statement of gender equality or egalitarian living.

Viewing men as needing to be trained, tamed and/or “made acceptable”, almost as if we are animals, is not feminism. It’s gender essentialism and legitimises the “boys will be boys” approach.

Of course, we have learned that “common sense” is not always quite so common.

Seems pretty obvious to me: not expecting each partner in a relationship to do 50% of the work (assuming both are in good health, and related caveats) is, well, pretty damn insulting to that partner. Kind of makes you shake your head at all the MRAs who whine about “ball-busting feminazis” and whatever else they say… they’re not exactly setting a high bar for their own gender, are they?

“You’re doing it wrong.”

Quick brain dump

I don’t have time for much of anything other than work today, but I do want to post something real quick in response to a discussion at Ren’s place. Over there, I said:

Octo,
As I said before, I agree w/ a lot of what you are saying re: the gendered tilt to “sex week” being problematic. In fact, we agree on much more than we disagree on here, so I don’t want it to seem like I’m nit-picking. But this did irritate me a little:

And “age is just a number” notwithstanding, college girls and guys aren’t that savvy about longer term issues.

Now I realize I have this thing where I personalize everything. I’m not sure how to stop doing that, or even if I *should* stop - but what it boils down to is, when I see a general statement made that doesn’t apply to me, a little red flag goes up, because that means the general statement isn’t so general. And sure, I could be an outlier, and there is value in speaking in generalities if they apply to a large majority - I certainly understand that. And yet, that statement rankles. When I was in college, I absolutely was savvy about longer-term issues, and I was very annoyed and insulted by people assuming I wasn’t, simply because of my age or because I was in college.

I really like and respect Octogalore and so I didn’t snap at her or anything. I want to understand where she’s coming from. But it might end up being a fundamental difference in perspective, and I do take umbrage at the suggestion of college girls being “impressionable” and, basically, infantilized.

This is something that always bugged the shit out of me in college, the way some people insisted on treating college students like high school students in slightly bigger bodies. (I saw more of this at UGA than at NYU, but I have no doubt it happens to a degree at every college.) I was always like, goddammit, college students are adults! We are over 18. Hence, ADULTS. So fucking treat us like adults!! If you continually treat college students as NOT adults, what good does that do? It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. And yeah, some people come from sheltered backgrounds. But you know what? They’ve gotta grow up and learn how to deal in the real world at some point. So quit with the coddling, because it’s fucking offensive!

I may have even blogged this sentiment when I was in college, because I’ve had my blog that long.

As for this Yale Sex Week business, hey, Gail Dines, did you even bother to look at the schedule? The “Who Looks Most Like a Vivid Girl” contest contest is one part of a full week of diverse programming. As in many situations, parts of the programming might not be nearly as “progressive” as they are marketed to be. Color me skeptical. And yeah, if I were at Yale, that contest would likely stick in my craw. But as far as the actual women involved, it all boils back down to a pretty simple concept for me. I don’t have to like or endorse or sing the praises of every woman’s choice. DUH. But see the thing is, other women don’t NEED my approval to do whatever it is they want to do, and vice versa.

Arrested development, online and off

Figleaf is writing, again, about the constraints of contemporary American “masculinity,” and how it is harmful to men and society as a whole. This is interesting enough on its own, but especially in light of the “online bullying” discussions, and the ways in which the blogosphere seems to turn garden variety assholes into full-on hate monkeys… well, this is quite interesting.

Ten, maybe fifteen years ago I was profoundly influenced by an article in The Atlantic Monthly magazine about the culture of the adolescent boy. The article (now either lost in the ether and/or banished forever behind their subscription-only firewall) pointed out that because early adolescent boys have tremendous spending power compared to other demographics there’s natural market pressure to a) cater to them and b) encourage extension of that pre-adult period as long as possible.

Okay… keep going…

In strictly economic terms it’s a tough argument to refute. Very young men tend to live at home where their obligatory expenses are negligible, have quite a lot of free time, have surprisingly few responsibilities, and therefore while not exactly high-income never the less tend to spend whatever they do have on discretionary items. If I were in business I suppose I’d covet, and coddle, that demographic as well.

In nearly any other terms, The Atlantic article pointed out, it’s a bit of a catastrophe both for the young men themselves and for society as a whole. The issue being that young men of that age are maximally alienated. Physically and, for the most part, mentally they approach adult capability but, largely because they’re still emotionally, hormonally, and experientially immature, they tend to be tightly controlled by their elders and nearly powerless. The perfectly understandable result is a lot of anxiety, insecurity, and frustration that, when left unchanneled, is expressed with sarcasm, passive-aggression, extremely rich fantasies, physical distractions (including drugs, alcohol, sex, music), status-seeking posturing, and aggressive game playing. They tend to have enormous, though largely untested, self-confidence that manifests in often-aggravated mixtures of “nobody listens to me” and “if everyone would just listen to me.” They tend to have contempt or wariness for those they don’t perceive as being in the same boat they are. And intense affinity for, and loyalty towards, they believe are. Oh yeah, and they revel in opportunities to shock, surprise, or one-up adults and other authority figures.

So there’s your “identity politics.” And, about those self-declared radio shock jocks (and their online brethren, by extension)? It’s not difficult to see where this is going, now…

Enter Don Imus, the 70-year-old man who based his career, and his popularity, on pretensions of arrested development. The man who’s remark about the women of Rutgers was offensive not only for its unforgivable racism, its gratuitous sexism, and it’s uncivil diminishment of athletic accomplishment but also its sheer, pointless abdication of masculine maturity.

The problem with Imus’s remark, like way too many similar remarks over the years, was not its utterance but its origin in pre-adult male jealousy in the face of that which he believes he himself could not accomplish. The Rutgers athletes had advanced to the NCAA national championship, something Imus, not an athlete himself, did not and could not. Reaching into the standard toolbag of the alienated and resentful he sought for an insult that would, in his eyes, most diminish his guest in his eyes and those of his “market demographic.” And found what turned out to be a perfect one in the sense that it deeply cut those at whom he threw it, shocked and outraged responsible people, got him “sent to the principle’s office,” and earned him sorrowfully approving murmurs from his admiring ostensible peers about “going a little to far this time.”

Now, how does the Duke lacrosse team figure into this, as well?

And meanwhile look at the world he and his maturity-challenged cohorts have wrought through the lens of the Duke lacrosse team. The unsupervised boys Imus strives to both recruit and emulate semi-surreptitiously rounded up a couple of kegs and a couple of strippers and behaved like little boys getting away with something — not least because in a world populated by Imus’s, Sterns, Letterman’s, George Walker Bush’s, and sundry athletes and entertainers you can count the number of responsible public adult-male role models on the fingers of one mitten.

Real adults can accept when someone declines their overture in the presence of their peers without losing face or otherwise feeling diminished. Real adults can distinguish the difference between a stripper and a prostitute, not least by asking clearly and by insuring the clarity of the reply. Real sexual adults don’t think they have to sneak around or cut corners on their prospective partners to have sex. Even if Don Imus reinforces the impression that men can’t “get any” unless they do.

And to bring it all back around to real adult sex, since that’s the name of the blog, after all…

For that matter, real men don’t “get any,” they don’t “hit that,” they don’t “score,” and they don’t “get lucky.” Real men don’t “get a piece” of a chick, a MILF, a babe, a coed, a “nappy headed ‘ho.” Real adult men, “even” unmarried men, fuck other adults eye to eye, belly to belly or belly to back with nothing else on their mind at the moment but the enjoyment that can be shared, not taken or given, between equals.

The status quo for masculinity does no service to the genuine boys of Duke, the geriatric “boy” that is Don Imus, or the staggering number of men who imagine adulthood in the form of “Larry ‘Bud Melman” is the only alternative to the shameful destructiveness of extended juvenility.

A 10 out of 10, sir.

So, you know when feminists talk about how feminism is helpful to women, men, and society? Well, here’s a shining example. If you’re not reading Figleaf’s blog, you should be, because it’s A-List in the actual meritocratic sense. I wish there were more men blogging about the question(s) of what it means to be a man, and how/why that definition should be changing.